View Full Version : does anyone know anything about dr fernando ramirez del rio

06-22-2007, 05:53 AM
l also go on a website called www.topix.net where they discuss many subjects amongst them being stem cells they've told me about a dr fernando ramirez del rio so ive put this name into the google search engine and found out he also has a clinic in tijuana mexico doing umbilical stem cell treatment does anyone know anything about him?

06-22-2007, 10:18 PM
I think you should get several responses about him from this forum. The Pioneer group did a lot of research and Dr. Ramirez unfortunately was not (and I believe this to still be the case) working with COPD patients. Since all of the original Pioneers suffer from COPD we had to look elsewhere. If my office didn't look like a hurricane just blew through, I might be able to find my notes on him. I am appealing to the other Pioneers to please step forward and fill you in on any information they may have. Did anyone on the other forum have experience with his treatments?

06-24-2007, 04:37 AM
hi barbara
l got his name off someone on the other forum but thats all so im hoping to learn more

06-24-2007, 05:34 PM
Hi Shazza,

Dr. Ramirez has a special license to do human umbilical cord stem cell research and stem cell therapy issued by the Ministry of Health, Mexico City, Mexico
Dr. Ramirez: Phone at clinic: 011-5266-832944;

International Information Phone Number: 011-5266-4973-2569

Email: ramirezdelrio@cox.net

You will find much information at the 2 links below , including
a downloadable Patient enrollment form and Patient Handbook on Umbilical Cord Stem Cell Therapy.

Hope this helps,



06-25-2007, 04:12 AM
hi jan
thanks a lot does anyone know anything more about his clinic , has anyone been or know of anyone who has?
l had a dream last night that l had stem cell treatment in mexico and it was successful and l was able to move my right arm and walk and although l was very weak and had a limp l was moving it felt wonderful! thats the first time l have dreamt that l could walk since l was in hospital!

06-27-2007, 11:08 PM
Hi again, Sharon,

Dr. Ramirez claims to have 25 formerly paralyzed patients, walking again.

Vet received stem cell therapy from Dr. Ramirez in Mexico. Here is the link to his website:


06-28-2007, 04:55 AM
hi jan
thanks so much for the info! l had a good look round the website and know of someone with a spinal cord injury who would find all this interesting
im wondering though if this clinic specialises in these sort of cases?

06-22-2008, 06:25 AM
Hi there
We are looking at therapy for our daughter who has CP, and were looking at going through Steenblock/Ramirez. We only have 2 remaining concerns -
1. That it's a subcutaneous injection rather than IV and
2. that the vial is clear, like water, where it seems a lot of medical professionals are saying that it can't have cells in it because if it did, it would be opaque (as well as a 'brain scientist' I've been discussing this with over here in New Zealand).

Has anyone been through Ramirez' clinic for CP?
Does anyone have any comments on the above? ie. for those who received treatment elsewhere, were your vials clear?
What warnings were given regarding host vs graft disease to those of you who have received the treatement?

I'm so glad to have found this forum, it is the most useful place I've found for those deciding whether to undergo this treatment - thank you to the founders and all contributors.

06-22-2008, 10:43 AM
One of our members is taking her daughter with CP there at the end of this month. Have you asked the doctor or someone at his clinic the question you are posting here? I would certainly bring up your concerns and this is always a good indication of how your future concerns will be handled by a doctor or clinic. If you get brushed off or get no response, I would have to wonder if this is the way it would be after treatment. I am not saying this has happened to anyone at this clinic, but it is where you could start with your question if no one else posts a reply. Also, some of the best information on GVH disease is obtained by Googling. The chances in my opinion of getting it from this therapy are between slim and none, but I am not an expert. Also, I think your question on the vial color is a good one and I will include it in next month's Ask the Theorist forum. Dr. Payne is very knowledgeable and will be hosting for July. Questions will be turned into him by July 8 and then his answers should be received by the following week. You may be moving forward more quickly than this, but it would be good for others to also get an answer that we can post on the forum. Thanks for your very gracious comments. The forum was started as a gift from my son. When Jeannine and I got home from treatment we felt totally isolated. There was no one to discuss our treatment with and the company where we went didn't give us any information as to what to expect. We ended up writing a book about it all and starting the forum. All of our moderators are patients. I am glad to hear you compliment our participants also. The members are a huge part of why the forum is a success. I think we have a pretty nice group personally.

06-24-2008, 03:20 AM
Hi there, yes, I'll be following that member's experiences closely! But I have already submitted my daughter's notes to the clinic, and will follow up with a phone call later this week (I seem to have gleaned from this forum that a lot of places need a bit of a chase up! That's OK :D).
How do I access the Ask the Theorist forum? Can't seem to find a link for it...

06-24-2008, 08:38 AM
Dr. Payne will be hosting the Ask the Biotheorist forum next month. This is not a monthly feature, but a special forum for July. If you have any questions you want to submit, please send them to my e-mail.